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Which remote for Dish 811?????
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Post 1 made on Monday December 13, 2004 at 09:36
wilsondavidp
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Hello....

I have been eyeing this forum for about a month now, to try to solve the problem with my Sony AV 3000. I currently have a Dish 811 HD receiver and as I have found out thru the geniuses on this forum, since it is a RF format, it will not work. I have had the 3000 for quite a while now, and believe, that I have graduated to the next level of remotes. Does anyone, I mean anyone, have any suggestions for me. Which remote should I graduate to? Which remote can I configure to work with the Dish 811? Any other suggestions for a novice that has only graduated from Remote 101 (freshman level). Thanks.

Dave
Post 2 made on Monday December 13, 2004 at 11:07
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You should be able to make the 3000 work with the Dish 811. Don't confuse the original remote transmitting ONLY RF for the 811 and the 811 not responding to IR. Here is a link to an 811 CCF file which may be imported into PENG: [Link: remotecentral.com]

Beyond that, Read the FAQ.
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OP | Post 3 made on Monday December 13, 2004 at 23:03
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Ok, now I have downloaded this file...I could not find any information source to explain further beyond this point. How do I get this information into the Sony AV3000? Thanks a ton!

Dave
Post 4 made on Tuesday December 14, 2004 at 10:41
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In the setup of the Dish receiver, you must tell it to respond to IR rather than RF.
Having once decided to achieve a certain task, achieve it at all costs of tedium and distaste. The gain in self-confidence of having accomplished a tiresome labor is immense. -----Arnold Bennett
Post 5 made on Tuesday December 14, 2004 at 11:38
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On 12/13/04 09:36 ET, wilsondavidp said...
Hello....

I have been eyeing this forum for about a month
now, to try to solve the problem with my Sony
AV 3000. I currently have a Dish 811 HD receiver
and as I have found out thru the geniuses on this
forum, since it is a RF format, it will not work.
I have had the 3000 for quite a while now, and
believe, that I have graduated to the next level
of remotes. Does anyone, I mean anyone, have
any suggestions for me. Which remote should I
graduate to? Which remote can I configure to
work with the Dish 811? Any other suggestions
for a novice that has only graduated from Remote
101 (freshman level). Thanks.

Since you are using a Sony AV3000 (not Pronto 3000) you cannot use the PCF or CCF's to get someone else's learned codes into you Sony remote. You will need to find a friend that has a Dish remote for about any model below the Dish 811 (721 or 6000 works good) and learn the IR codes using this remote into your Sony 3000. The 811 remote sends UHF only to the dish receiver (but the receiver accepts both IR and UHF). The "older" dish remotes send IR and UHF at the same time.
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Post 6 made on Tuesday December 14, 2004 at 14:10
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DOH! I quit paying attention to what remote when I read 3000. Note to self: Next time read the entire post before posting. :$
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OP | Post 7 made on Tuesday December 14, 2004 at 20:58
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Thanks a ton for all of your help...but, if I am thinking of upgrading to the next level (which it sounds like I might not be capable of) of remotes, what would you recommend (considering I own the Dish 811)?
Thanks a ton!

Dave
Post 8 made on Tuesday December 14, 2004 at 22:56
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Either the Pronto 3000 or the 7000 will do what you need with the Dish 811 ( and about any other IR controled device). If you have the bucks go for the 7000, its display is one of the best on the market. I run two dish receivers, a sony HDTV, sony receiver, panasonic DVD, RCA VCR, a bunch of X10 stuff and switcher box with my 7000 and 3000 Pronto's. If you liked your Sony AV 3000 then you will love a Pronto.
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Post 9 made on Thursday December 16, 2004 at 05:56
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So.....how do I tell the Dish receiver to listen to the IR commands over the RF?

I am not seeing that in the setup. Anyone? Thanks
Post 10 made on Thursday December 16, 2004 at 20:59
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On 12/16/04 05:56 ET, PDP1 said...
So.....how do I tell the Dish receiver to listen
to the IR commands over the RF?

I am not seeing that in the setup. Anyone? Thanks

The dish receiver does not use RF, it uses UHF. If responds to IR and/or UHF at the same time. The dish remotes before the 811 and 921 send IR and UHF both with one press of the button.

To test control your dish receiver form another room (non line of sight), and it will respond using the UHF, take off the little antenna from the dish receiver and it will not respond form the other room but will respond with line of sight from the remote using the IR.
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OP | Post 11 made on Thursday December 16, 2004 at 22:30
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Thanks a ton for input, Archer. How does the 7000 compare to the Marantz 9200? Am I correct in assuming that the 9200 is the same as the Pronto 6000? It also states that the 9200 will transmit both RF and IR signals, is that the same as the 7000? If you had the option between the 7000 and the Marantz 9200, which would you choose? (Again assuming my most complicated unit would be the Dish 811 and I would like to program this remote to run my RF ceiling fan). Thanks for you honest and assistance in this purchase.......why is this so difficult, what a day we live in! Thanks again.

Dave
Post 12 made on Thursday December 16, 2004 at 23:40
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For most practical purposes, I am going to say the 7000 does not control RF devices!!! The RF that the Pronto sends out is an IR signal that the pronto has converted to RF to be sent to the Pronto RF receiver that then turns that RF signal back into an IR signal to control your compoents.Using the RF option allows you to controll IR devices in other rooms or equipment behind closed doors in your audio/video cabinent.

To control your RF fan the Pronto and Fan would need to be the same frequency and you would have to have a way to learn to RF commands to the Pronto. For the average user this gets way to involed to try and do. Dave Houston is the local expert on RF and Pronto's and has a web site that explains a lot of this in detail. Don't remember the website address, but a search in this forum should locate it.
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Post 13 made on Friday December 17, 2004 at 19:23
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If you know how to learn IR codes to your sony 3000 from other remotes, you can teach it codes from the dish 811 receiver. The codes don't transmit from the 811 remote though. The 811 remote is Radio Frequency only. The codes are transmitted from the front of the receiver. You have to put the receiver in "teach" mode first.
Go to the main menu and select system setup. Then select diagnostics and there is an option to "teach remote". Once you enter that mode, the receiver will echo commands out of its front panel every time you push a button on it's remote. This can be used to learn the comands to any learning remote. Nothing fancy required. I think there is more detailed info on how to do this on the Dish web page and also the forums of the Satelliteguys web site.
Post 14 made on Saturday December 18, 2004 at 03:09
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Once again, the Dish 811 remote it not RF it is UHF....

[Link: dishnetwork.com]

811 learning from Satelliteguys forum....

[Link: satelliteguys.us]

[Link: satelliteguys.us]
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Post 15 made on Sunday December 19, 2004 at 17:17
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I'm new to and learning a lot about my new Pronto 7000 from this forum -- thanks.

I've been working hard on getting it to work with my dish 811 and 510.

Thanks to your help I've made great progress on the 811 but am still confounded by the 510.

The 811 responds and I just learned above how to teach the pronto more from the 811 unit -- thanks.

So my remaining question is how to do I tell the 510 to listen to the IR commands. That continues to elude me. And if I succeed, will it then cross control with the 811?

If so, I'm starting to dream up ways around that :)

Thanks


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